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Happy B-Day vibez firmware 1.04 - now with new beta firmware within! (Important)
1.16 beta as of 2008-04-03
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RubenNYC #421
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Hello everyone,

First off, I've read through the entire thread and would like to make some comments.

1 - Please put information in the thread title that 1.19 is the latest beta firmware.  I had to hunt through this thread just to find it.  A 'release date' for that firmware would also be good to have so we know how old it is.


Good idea!  I don't have mod powers to modify the thread title, but I included a link in the body of the original post.  Also updated the FAQ.

4 - What is the 'scroll nudge' feature?  Is it implemented in the latest 1.19 beta?  Do I have to downgrade to an older version to have it?  Is it really that necessary?

When viewing scrolling text, such as a long ong title in the library view or about track view, scroll nudge allows you to nudge the scrolling along a little more quickly.  Sadly, it looks like it got accidentally nixed in 1.19.

5 - I'm interested in purchasing the docking station, but I live in the USA, and don't want to order from a foreign company, I'd prefer Amazon or something but I didn't see it listed anywhere.  Any tips/advice?

B&H in NYC has it listed as a "Special Order" item.  I have no idea what that means, but might be worth a phone call.  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/471957-REG/Trekstor_…

6 - What types of playlists and audio formats does the latest firmware support?  Does it include the latest version of Ogg Vorbis codecs/playlists as well?

No change from the original firmware, as far as I can tell. 

What playlist format does the Vibez use?
If you use your Vibez using MTP -- in other words, if you use Windows Media Player 10 or 11, or Windows Vista, and haven't otherwise disabled MTP -- Playlists are dealt with in an MTP-specific way, and format support depends only on what your transfer software supports.

If you use your Vibez using mass-storage class -- in other words, if it appears as a drive-letter -- then the format support is indeed down to what the Vibez firmware supports directly.

Fortunately, the Vibez firmware directly supports all four main playlist formats: M3U, PLS, ASX, and WPL. Of these, M3U and PLS have the widest compatibility, but they're ANSI (8-bit) formats, which means they can't represent non-ASCII filenames in a way that's readable independent of locale. (Or, in other words, if your Greek friend writes some files with Greek filenames, and an M3U playlist referring to them, to your Vibez, then the playlist won't play. Nor will your French M3Us be readable by his Greek Vibez.)

ASX attempts to solve the locale problem, by being UTF-8 and XML-like; trouble is, it's not quite XML-like enough, as it doesn't escape XML special characters, and goes horribly wrong if you use "<" or ">" in filenames.

WPL is Microsoft's next attempt to solve that problem, and is genuine UTF-8 XML. Vibez uses WPL internally, for playlists sent over MTP. However, WPL support is not as widespread in other applications as either M3U or ASX.

Hope this helps and welcome to the board.
Sean Michael Taylor #21 (1983-2007). Thank you for giving it everything you had. Rest In Peace.
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Is there any practical way I can keep the batteries in 'storage' for a long period of time (2+ years) without the batteries becoming unusable?

The usually recommended strategy for storing rechargeable Li-Ion batteries is to charge them to about 60% and store them in a cool place.

My personal strategy is to fully charge them, put them into a stuffed letter envelope and place them in my fridge at about 8°C.

Note that I've not tried that with a Vibez battery as I do not own a spare one, the original battery stills works fine for me after more than 1.5 years now.

Greetings,

  Gunter
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Quote by darkwraith007:
Is there any practical way I can keep the batteries in 'storage' for a long period of time (2+ years) without the batteries becoming unusable?
The usually recommended strategy for storing rechargeable Li-Ion batteries is to charge them to about 60% and store them in a cool place.

There's a nice table about this in the English Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Storage_t…
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Quote by darkwraith007 on 2008-08-15, 13:46:
1 - Please put information in the thread title that 1.19 is the latest beta firmware.  I had to hunt through this thread just to find it.  A 'release date' for that firmware would also be good to have so we know how old it is.
Alternatively, people could, like, make a new thread when they release new firmware versions?

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I have one more bad bug report: Sometimes the folder.jpg doesn't get displayed as a background image although it's there, has the right name and the Vibez image viewer can show it. I have no real clue as to when this bug happens and when it doesn't. Anyone else having problems with the background images?

One wild guess is that there is an ID3 tag pointing to an image so this gets preferred by the Vibez (which generally would seem a great idea) but this image is actually broken or the tag is or something. Don't know how to check this though. Would this be a possible behaviour? Then it should be fixed in any case in my opinion, perhaps it fixes this bug, too.
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I have one more bad bug report: Sometimes the folder.jpg doesn't get displayed as a background image although

Maybe its too large? IIRC the file size limit for folder.jpg files is 64 kbytes. The image viewer can also display larger images, however.

Otherwise, do the files in question have some cover image data embedded in their tags?

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  Gunter
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Quote by Interneci on 2008-08-17, 06:30:
Quote by mudd1:
I have one more bad bug report: Sometimes the folder.jpg doesn't get displayed as a background image although

Maybe its too large? IIRC the file size limit for folder.jpg files is 64 kbytes. The image viewer can also display larger images, however.

Otherwise, do the files in question have some cover image data embedded in their tags?

Bad bug! I'm sure there's far worse than that!

The image viewer is no better (or worse) at displaying images than the background renderer. There's a resolution limit on the jpeg's but there is no limit on the actual size of them.

Pertanant information required is whether the file(s) have embedded images and their types (MP3 I would guess?).

A directory listing from where the failing files reside would be useful too.
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Quote by Interneci on 2008-08-17, 06:30:
Quote by mudd1:
I have one more bad bug report: Sometimes the folder.jpg doesn't get displayed as a background image although

Maybe its too large? IIRC the file size limit for folder.jpg files is 64 kbytes. The image viewer can also display larger images, however.

Otherwise, do the files in question have some cover image data embedded in their tags?

Bad bug! I'm sure there's far worse than that!

The image viewer is no better (or worse) at displaying images than the background renderer. There's a resolution limit on the jpeg's but there is no limit on the actual size of them.

Pertanant information required is whether the file(s) have embedded images and their types (MP3 I would guess?).

A directory listing from where the failing files reside would be useful too.

Well no, I tried to say that the report was bad, not the bug. I'll write a better one with the things you asked me for. This will take some time, though, and I'm already almost off on holiday. In two weeks you'll get mail :)
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Well no, I tried to say that the report was bad, not the bug. I'll write a better one with the things you asked me for. This will take some time, though, and I'm already almost off on holiday. In two weeks you'll get mail :)

"Eats, Shoots & Leaves" eh?  :-D
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Defector, I love you...<3
I'm absolutlely adoring the new v1.19 beta firmware, and all the new functionality when I installed it.
Updating was quite painless and a lot quicker then I thought it would be.
I also love seeing the 'Beta' thing on the loading screen now, gives me yet more geek-points...especially when showing off my Vibez to my peers.
I've noticed that everything seems smoother and faster, responsiveness is improved as well.

So well done.  Whatever else might be wrong with the Vibez, I really don't know, as this firmware seems to fix pretty much every complaint about the Vibez since it was released.

Perhaps if someone were to compile a list of bugs/issues that still linger in the beta firmware that should be resolved to consider the firmware 'final' code?  Then after the requisite testing process, they can finally add 1.19 to the 'official' vibez firmware page so everyone can enjoy the lovely goodness.  ^^;
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it's been ages since i've been here, but what a joy to come across this tremendous new firmware! love you!
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New bug in 1.19.  This one has to do with sorting:

When using the new Karma playlisting feature and browsing through your music library by Artists, adding check marks to tell the vibez what to add to the playlist, I realized that bands beginning with "The" are all grouped under T.  The weird thing is, under *, they're sorted correctly.

Repro steps:

Assume you want to add a bunch of songs by The Killers to an existing saved playlist, starting at the main Now Playing screen:

- Click Up for Menu
- Select Music Library > Organize > My Playlists > Edit
- Select an existing playlist to edit
- Select Artists

Now from here, if you click * in the list of initial letters and scroll down through the list of Artists, you'll find The Killers in the middle of the Ks, right where you would expect them to be.

However, if you select K in the list of initial letters, The Killers won't be there.  They'll be under T, along with The Beatles, The Breeders, The Cure, The Clash, etc.

Thanks.

ps.  Did I mention I love the Fine Tune feature?  If you ask me, that piece was genius.
Sean Michael Taylor #21 (1983-2007). Thank you for giving it everything you had. Rest In Peace.
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Quote by RubenNYC:
New bug in 1.19.  This one has to do with sorting:

Does this happen on the normal music selection menu? They're essentially the same internally.

If it does work there it probably means I forgot to set a flag somewhere.

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ps.  Did I mention I love the Fine Tune feature?  If you ask me, that piece was genius.

That all come about because I realised that the items were in the order you added them . I thought to myself that sucks! So I my second round of doing this feature maybe I got it right!!!!
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Yeah, the normal music selection menu is fine.

My only comment on the Fine Tune menu is that it feels a little out of place.  Meaning, maybe it should be at the same menu level as Create, Edit, Rename, etc. rather than the level where you're adding Artists, Albums, Tracks, etc.? 

It works great where it is, just a consistency thing and making sure people can find it easily.  Right now it can get a little lost at the end of all those wonderful selection options.  (Artist, Album, Track, Genre, Mood, Composer, History, Lead Singer's cousin's sister's ex-boyfriend, ... then Fine Tune.)
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"Fine Tune" feature? Guess I missed that one...What's it do?
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