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Happy B-Day vibez firmware 1.04 - now with new beta firmware within! (Important)
1.16 beta as of 2008-04-03
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Interneci 2008-04-04, 23:45 #346
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(...) Target.com for a new one. Two faulty Vibez' later (sticky scroll wheels on both of them -- common much?), (...)

My Vibez' scroll wheel was also slightly "sticky" when I bought it - this "problem" solved itself after some usage.

I'm not convinced that a scroll wheel which does not rotate 100% smoothly is a reason for returning a Vibez, thinking of all the hassle related for the user and the dealer. It's a problem which will probably just disappear if the Vibez is kept and used. :-)
epithetless 2008-04-05, 11:38 #347
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I'm not convinced that a scroll wheel which does not rotate 100% smoothly is a reason for returning a Vibez, thinking of all the hassle related for the user and the dealer. It's a problem which will probably just disappear if the Vibez is kept and used. :-)

Yeah, that's what I tried to convince myself of with my first Vibez, but after bearing with the stickiness over time, it failed to improve and it made me dislike using the player. I personally consider that more of a hassle than seeking out a friendlier replacement. When the second Vibez arrived and immediately had none of the issues of the first, I knew how much better the player could feel...so I wasn't willing to go back to abiding an annoying usability flaw with my subsequent replacements. FWIW, in each of my three cases, the stickiness was more than "slight," but I guess that could be a matter of perspective. ;-)
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Peregrine 2008-04-07, 07:08 #348
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I returned my first one with a sticky wheel issue. Hadn't changed an iota after 3 weeks. The 2nd was instantly better. I paid $200 for it. I wanted a flawless one.

I sent Trekstor an email. I said 'can we expect anything new, because mine is dead and I really want another but I can't buy one anywhere'.

Reply:

Sorry to hear you are having trouble with your Vibez.

The vibez is still available in the U.S.A., currently on back-order.
(does that make ANY sense? Avail, but on backorder).

Have you tried reinstalling the firmware?
(It won't even turn on anymore!!)


Wrote them back asking for some real info. Basically "is there something new coming or not! I won't wait 6 months for you!".

I'm so freaking annoyed mine dies right before the dock comes out. And now I can't find one.
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epithetless 2008-04-07, 15:20 #349
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I returned my first one with a sticky wheel issue. Hadn't changed an iota after 3 weeks. The 2nd was instantly better. I paid $200 for it. I wanted a flawless one.

Yep, that pretty much sums my experience up. Succinctness FTW!

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Sorry to hear you are having trouble with your Vibez.

The vibez is still available in the U.S.A., currently on back-order.
(does that make ANY sense? Avail, but on backorder).

I'm assuming this means they will eventually return to US shelves (vs. being discontinued). Thanks to TrekStor's chronic vagueness, though, all I can do is assume. Is the Vibez still in stock in places outside of the US (e.g. Europe)?
Interneci 2008-04-07, 15:35 #350
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Is the Vibez still in stock in places outside of the US (e.g. Europe)?

It virtually wasn't available anywhere for some time, except at resellers which requested ridiculously high resale prices.

However, the 8 GB version is back in stock, eg. at mp3-player.de, which gives some hope that the 12 GB version may return soon as well. That's also the reply I got from mp3-player.de today when I asked them if the 12 GB version will be available again.

So, sorry, nothing definite, but I think not all hope is lost.
RubenNYC 2008-04-09, 09:19 #351
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Quick question for defector:  For us WMP11 & MTP users, what is the recommended method for applying album art to ensure that it shows up consistently on the vibez?  Having WMP11 apply the album art does not appear to work very well for mp3 files.

thx.
Interneci 2008-04-09, 13:22 #352
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Yesterday, I finally got back to my Vibez and upgraded immediately. The new firmware works just fine - I love the "Now Playing List" hot key and the persistant backlight in powered mode, the player also doesn't crash any more in MSC mode if inserted into the docking station while being turned off. :-)

Thanks defector!

I still do not get the "dock mode"'s purpose, however... Can someone explain it to me? ;) If I'm close enough to be able to read the menu, I can also use the wheel to navigate - and there does not seem to be a way to control volume using the remote while in dock mode? Additionally, how do I get back to the playing screen using the remote?

And I think I found one bug concerning dock mode: I configured the "menu" quick button as dock mode toggle. If I invoke the quick button, I get the "dock mode" configuration page. If I switch "dock mode" on, the volume will be reset to the maximum "power on volume" configured in the preferences, despite the fact that the player is already powered on and playing.

A slightly "annoying" thing is that the player still switches off after the configured timeout period if it's paused and in the dock. Ie. I can pause it remotely eg. from my bed or couch but if I wait too long before turning it on again I will have to get up and turn it back on manually... ;) However I also do not want to disable the normal "auto off" feature for battery mode.
defector 2008-04-10, 03:37 #353
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Quick question for defector:  For us WMP11 & MTP users, what is the recommended method for applying album art to ensure that it shows up consistently on the vibez?  Having WMP11 apply the album art does not appear to work very well for mp3 files.

I've used WMP11 with some success. I think you have to allow WMP11 to update your tracks (checkbox somewhere) to get it working.

If I remember correctly WMP11 may associate album art with the album using the '/Albums' directory and the '.alb' files (with associated '.jpg' files). The vibez has been made to cope with way of working although I don't think this association survives a full database rebuild.
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I still do not get the "dock mode"'s purpose, however... Can someone explain it to me? ;) If I'm close enough to be able to read the menu, I can also use the wheel to navigate - and there does not seem to be a way to control volume using the remote while in dock mode?

And if your close enough to read the menu why do you need the IR remote at all?  :-)

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... and there does not seem to be a way to control volume using the remote while in dock mode?

If it's in the dock the assumption is that you've got it connected to an amp of somekind that has remote control (i.e like the vibez is giving line out). I'll take opinions on this ...

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Additionally, how do I get back to the playing screen using the remote?

The volume up button goes up a level in the menu system.

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And I think I found one bug concerning dock mode: I configured the "menu" quick button as dock mode toggle. If I invoke the quick button, I get the "dock mode" configuration page. If I switch "dock mode" on, the volume will be reset to the maximum "power on volume" configured in the preferences, despite the fact that the player is already powered on and playing.

I guess I'm willing to believe that there may possibly be bugs ...  ;-)

EDIT: Engage brain ... you mean if you switch dock mode 'off', if so then this is intentional.

The story goes like this, you maxed out the volume on the vibez to use it as a 'line out' device to your stereo (or whatever). You now want to use it as a 'normal' device out of the dock, so you switch off dock mode returning the volume to a 'safe' level. I know this is a slight skew in the use of the 'power on volume' setting but it makes sense to me.

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A slightly "annoying" thing is that the player still switches off after the configured timeout period if it's paused and in the dock. Ie. I can pause it remotely eg. from my bed or couch but if I wait too long before turning it on again I will have to get up and turn it back on manually... ;) However I also do not want to disable the normal "auto off" feature for battery mode.

Indeed it does (to extend the backlight's life), however pressing (or maybe holding) play/pause on the IR should revive the beast!
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Interneci 2008-04-10, 13:19 #355
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Quote by Interneci:
I still do not get the "dock mode"'s purpose, however... Can someone explain it to me? ;) If I'm close enough to be able to read the menu, I can also use the wheel to navigate (...)
And if your close enough to read the menu why do you need the IR remote at all?  :-)

That basically was my question, or at least, it should have been... ;) Sorry, I didn't make myself clear.

However, the "dock mode"'s purpose got somewhat clearer thanks to your answers.

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If it's in the dock the assumption is that you've got it connected to an amp of somekind that has remote control (i.e like the vibez is giving line out). I'll take opinions on this ...

Ah, ok. Sounds sensible to me. I didn't think of this as my dock is attached to active speakers which do not have a remote. However, I'll probably won't use the dock mode too often anyway, so this is no disadvantage for me.

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Additionally, how do I get back to the playing screen using the remote?
The volume up button goes up a level in the menu system.

Mh... That does not seem to work for me... Maybe I'm doing something wrong again? ;)

If I press "volume up", the menu appears - so basically "volume up" is recognized and works. If I press "volume up" again, nothing happens. If I press "play", the current menu entry is selected and the sub menu appears. If I press "volume up" now, nothing happens as well. ALso holding "volume up" makes no difference. Mh?

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Quote by Interneci:
(...) If I switch "dock mode" on, the volume will be reset to the maximum "power on volume" configured in the preferences, (...)
EDIT: Engage brain ... you mean if you switch dock mode 'off', if so then this is intentional.

Uh, yes, sorry, a typo... If I switch dock mode "off", the volume is reset, which ...

Quote by defector:
The story goes like this, you maxed out the volume on the vibez to use it as a 'line out' device to your stereo (or whatever). You now want to use it as a 'normal' device out of the dock, (...)

... makes perfect sense if seen like this. Ok. :-)

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Quote by Interneci:
A slightly "annoying" thing is that the player still switches off after the configured timeout period if it's paused (...)
Indeed it does (to extend the backlight's life), however pressing (or maybe holding) play/pause on the IR should revive the beast!

Ah, right, holding "play" does the trick. Nice. :-)

Ok, with these great new features the player's usability in the docking station improved a lot. Thanks again! :-)

Greetings,

  Gunter
defector 2008-04-11, 02:06 #356
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Quote by Interneci:
If I press "volume up", the menu appears - so basically "volume up" is recognized and works. If I press "volume up" again, nothing happens. If I press "play", the current menu entry is selected and the sub menu appears. If I press "volume up" now, nothing happens as well. ALso holding "volume up" makes no difference. Mh?

Ummmmmmmmmmm. For me volume up displays the menu, another press of volume up and it goes away.  :-/

Mmmmmmmmmmm.
RubenNYC 2008-04-11, 03:33 #357
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Maybe Gunter has enabled that new feature where pressing up on the wheel scrolls up through the menu options?
defector 2008-04-11, 03:37 #358
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Maybe Gunter has enabled that new feature where pressing up on the wheel scrolls up through the menu options?

Genius! Have a virtual beer on me!  :-D

I'll have to fix that!
RubenNYC 2008-04-11, 14:01 #359
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Quote by RubenNYC:
Maybe Gunter has enabled that new feature where pressing up on the wheel scrolls up through the menu options?

Genius! Have a virtual beer on me!  :-D

I'll have to fix that!

Now that I'm virtually sloshed, I have couple other questions.  I just stumbled across a draft of the Rio Carbon|C user manual http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/videos/Rio_Cubic_ma… and was wondering:  1)  Whatever happened to the RioDJ -> Custom Mix option? and 2) Do the documented priorities for displaying album art still apply in the vibez firmware?

Thx.
peter 2008-04-12, 05:28 #360
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Quote by RubenNYC:
1)  Whatever happened to the RioDJ -> Custom Mix option?
It was designed, as a cleaning-up and de-geekification of the Empeg car-player's parametric shuffle feature, but never IIRC implemented.
2) Do the documented priorities for displaying album art still apply in the vibez firmware?
Yes, although that third item is a slight simplification -- Windows Media Player uses per-folder album art, but names the file after some GUID it makes up, not simply "folder.jpg". Those names are accepted too.

Peter
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