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Nordburgh 2007-04-02, 06:52 #1
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Subject: EMI, Apple partner on DRM-free premium music
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We'll see how long this lasts once someone purchases the music and uploads it to file sharing networks. You know they will.

Even with the increase in sound quality to 256Kb it makes no sense to purchase an album at the prices they are asking without DRM. I can get the CD for the same price or less in most cases without DRM, full liner notes and uncompressed. Until the prices are significantly lower than the cost of a CD I see no reason to purchase digital music files.

And for those who say you save space on not having to store a CD that's bogus because you have to backup that music to physical media if you don't want to lose it.
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Why can they NEVER realize they need to just sell them for the same price?  Fucking ridiculous!
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Highlights (to giggle at):

Higher-quality music files, which will play on any computer and any digital-audio player, will not replace the copy-protected EMI music currently sold through iTunes. Rather, they will complement the standard 99 cent iTunes downloads and will be sold at a premium: $1.29 per song.

Consumers who have already purchased EMI tracks containing Apple's FairPlay copy protection will be able to upgrade them to the premium version for 30 cents, EMI said. Full albums in DRM-free form can be bought at the same price as standard iTunes albums.

In iTunes, music will be sold in a 256 kilobit-per-second AAC format, the company said. ...(Steve)Jobs, who stressed the need for higher-quality music with the rise of high-fidelity home speaker systems, called EMI's move "the next big step forward in the digital-music revolution--the movement to completely interoperable DRM-free music."
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urbancontra (Moderator) 2007-04-02, 08:53 #4
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Mmm, more expensive and STILL lossy. 

Baby steps in the right direction are better than none, I guess.  Won't make me buy anything from iTMS or EMI, though.
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"Any player" eh.  My Karma doesn't play AAC... funny...  Where's the FLAC?
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Peregrine 2007-04-02, 13:24 #6
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How much is an album on iTunes?
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$9.99, IIRC.
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Peregrine 2007-04-02, 19:02 #8
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Well then, I don't know how long it's been since some of you have purchased music, but $9.99 is quite a bit cheaper then a CD. The cheapest one I've bought recently was $13.99.
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256 aac vs. CDs isn't a fair comparison.  $9.99 for a lossy AAC vs. $13.99 for a CD that I can rip to FLAC?  The CD is the better value, IMHO.  If I weren't already getting all my music thru lala (for $1/trade) and emusic (for about $0.25/song), I'd pay the extra few bucks for the CD, assuming the disc wasn't DRMed to hell.
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Nordburgh 2007-04-02, 20:01 #10
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Quote by Peregrine:
but $9.99 is quite a bit cheaper then a CD. The cheapest one I've bought recently was $13.99.
Then you are paying too much at the places you shop. Sure I can see buying a CD here or there for $13.99 or even $14.99.

But I can get CD's for $9.99 at BestBuy. CD's for $5 or less on Half.com or eBay. I can walk into a used CD store and get CD's for $9.99 or less.

If I were a subscriber (and I was in the past) to the SonyBMG music club I can get the average price paid per CD at around $5. So $9.99 for a digital album compressed is overpriced and expensive compared to a CD.

But even still, at $10.99 to $11.99 you can get new releases (free shipping) from Deepdiscount.com and for a few dollars more there still isn't really a choice here. CD hands down.

The last CD I bought cost me $14.99 (free shipping) and I gladly paid it. It gave me full liner notes, lyrics and the uncompressed CD. I waited less than a week for it to arrive and I now have ripped it to the format of my choice.
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Late to the game, only read the first post, but here's something I think is funny

Quote by Nord:
We'll see how long this lasts once someone purchases the music and uploads it to file sharing networks. You know they will.
I really don't think it's gonna be as big of a deal as you might think. Yes, people will upload them, but that's just a drop in the bucket. Mass piracy comes not from the iTunes and other digital download purchases, but from the high seas...wait, no...from the factories workers, leakers in the industry, and clerks in stores who get access to the music first. Those are the scene releases that get perpetuated early, way before the album drops usually. These are the things that really make up "true" piracy, not people who upload stuff that they buy from a digital download store, or even a CD from a local music shop. As I said, a drop in the bucket.
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Quote by Nordburgh on 2007-04-02, 20:01:
Quote by Peregrine:
but $9.99 is quite a bit cheaper then a CD. The cheapest one I've bought recently was $13.99.
Then you are paying too much at the places you shop. Sure I can see buying a CD here or there for $13.99 or even $14.99.


Maybe I am paying too much, but I am paying for the convenience. I walk over to FYE at the mega-lo-mall in downtown Cleveland at lunch and pay whatever price is on the label.
I usually buy CD's when they are new releases, so used isn't an option right away.
I don't like dicking around on the internet to find CD's. I'm an instant gratification kind of guy.
When I do buy online it is usually the small independents I shop from, like CDBaby.com
You are preaching to the choir about buying CD's my friend.
I'm just playing devils' advocate and I really don't think $9.99 is TO much.

Hell I remember paying $17.99 for the Evanescence CD almost a year after it came out. I stalked that album at all the major record stores and it was $17.99 at every single one.
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The real question is, why did you pay for an Evanescence CD?  ;-)
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Peregrine 2007-04-04, 12:17 #14
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Y'know..., any time I mention any band I like here, I get ribbed. You guys are giving me a complex! hahaha

The FALLEN album is pretty good, damnit! :D I love female voices and admit it, she's got a good one!
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I suppose. But it's just so... manufactured. Tristania, Sirenia, Nightwish, Leaves' Eyes, Theatre of Tragedy, The Project Hate MCMXCIX, Draconian, and Within Temptation all have beautiful sopranos, and feel much more sincere to me. The music is also less simplistic.

That said, I did cry to My Immortal once, but it could've been practic'ly any song, given the circumstances. Honest.

Edit: I never listened to it by choice, either. The associations I had with it were more or less forced.
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