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Notorious 2007-03-14, 20:46 #1
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Subject: I'm looking for help finding the best tools to archive my collection  ... any suggestions?
I want an archive toolset that can:
  1) be used to reproduce the CD
  2) be converted enmass to Vorbis and MP3

My only restriction is I run Windows.

Reading through other discussions, I'm guessing FLAC is the frontrunner on format.
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RubenNYC 2007-03-15, 06:31 #2
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My method:

- EAC to rip CDs to FLAC, stored in a separate \My Documents\My FLAC Music\ folder.   (This makes is easier to burn just the FLACs to DVD.)
- dbPowerAmp to convert FLAC to Ogg Vorbis, stored in the standard \My Documents\My Music\ folder.

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mimiihu 2007-03-15, 10:11 #3
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you can use EAC and MAREO.
mareo is a command line program which works with other cd rippers as well and just needs to be unzipped to the ripper folder.
in this case, eac will call mareo and this will call whichever encoders were defined by you at once so, you can rip to flac (for archive), mp3 and ogg at once.
follow the instructions on the mareo site.

and you're right, windows is a big restriction as it is.
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Einkoro (Administrator) 2007-03-15, 14:53 #4
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Alternatively you can use CDEX to rip FLAC on the fly and frontah (font end for lots of command line tools) to do everything else.

My flac settings for 1.51 of CDEX are:
-8 -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%b" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%tn" -T "genre=%g" - -o "%2"
Apparently it is back in development with 1.70 up for download but I haven't tried it yet.

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I'm gonna change it up and say EAC to WavPack for smaller and faster encoding files than FLAC. Foobar2000 can play, rename, move, copy, tag, transcode all you need.
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flattop100 2007-03-21, 10:29 #6
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Isn't the new FLAC (1.12) faster, if not smaller?

FAKEDIT: Yep:
Encoding and decoding speedups for all modes. Encoding at -8 is twice as fast.

But if size is an issue...
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peter 2007-03-21, 11:12 #7
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Quote by flattop100:
But if size is an issue...
...use flake?

I haven't actually tested whether Vibez can play -l32 FLACs. But it should be able to.

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Peter - do you think the Karma could do that?

And seriously, -l32 compression? I'm assuming that's on a same scale as regular FLAC?
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In reply to post #7
Quote by peter:
Quote by flattop100:
But if size is an issue...
...use flake?

I haven't actually tested whether Vibez can play -l32 FLACs. But it should be able to.

Peter

CheshireCat/IceNine/MilitantlyUnhelpful, whatever he is on the boards these days has been all about flake.  Faster encodes + smaller files.  I'm too lazy to make the switch now... maybe if/when it gets packaged in Debian (or maybe it is already >_>)
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Quote by LycoLoco:
Peter - do you think the Karma could do that?
IIRC Karma and Vibez use the same version of the FLAC decoder. Vibez has a more powerful CPU, though. It's worth a try on Karma.

And seriously, -l32 compression? I'm assuming that's on a same scale as regular FLAC?
Did you read the link?... the -l option controls the order (number of passes) of the predictive component of the encoder, so -l32 is order-32 prediction -- whereas the reference encoder uses order-8 or order-12. The compression levels in flake range from 0-12, where 0-8 are intended to correspond to the compression levels used by the reference encoder, 9-10 use a more exhaustive search for better compression but worse encode time, and 11-12 use the order-32 prediction for even better compression, but even worse encode time and potentially worse decode CPU usage too.

Peter
Notorious 2007-03-21, 21:21 #11
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Subject: Thank you
I have tried and appreciate every suggestion.

EAC & CDEX:
- CDEX was easy to setup and well supported.
- EAC required some patience and reading before I was productive, but now I have it just the way I want it.
  I particularly like the multiple profile feature.

Mareo, Frontah, and Foobar2000:
I love tools that take care of the parameters for me.  Foobar2000 does this particularly well.
The concept of Mareo is appealing, but with the setup being parameter strings in an ini file it's hard to love.
 
dbPoweramp Music Converter doesn't seem to accept flac as a file type to convert from.

WavPak:
- can I play it on a Vibez?
- will this format be around as long as FLAC?
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Quote by Notorious:
WavPak:
- can I play it on a Vibez?
No, nor on Karma, Squeezebox, Hifidelio, or Sonos.

- will this format be around as long as FLAC?
See above. It's already not around.

Peter
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Quote by Notorious:
dbPoweramp Music Converter doesn't seem to accept flac as a file type to convert from.

Did you install the dbPoweramp FLAC codec?  dbPoweramp uses its own dll of each codec.

Try here: Linky
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Notorious 2007-03-22, 12:34 #14
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Quote by jaw2ek:
Did you install the dbPoweramp FLAC codec?  dbPoweramp uses its own dll of each codec.

Now that I've dowloaded the correct codec, dbPoweramp is terrific.
Between dbPoweramp and Foobar2000, which is a prefferable tool?
Notorious 2007-03-22, 12:42 #15
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Vorbis looks like a popular lossy format for converting from FLAC.  They share the same tagging, what are some other reasons?  Is variable bit rate a good option?
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