The Rioorg crashes IE7

RubenNYC

2006-07-16, 21:41 #1

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Subject: The Rioorg crashes IE7

And it's not just this forum. Must be something about the core software since it also happens with the root UNB forums. I've been using IE7 exclusively but not have to open up Firefox to come here.

Just something to run up the chain.

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Sean Michael Taylor #21 (1983-2007). Thank you for giving it everything you had. Rest In Peace.

Einkoro (Administrator) 2006-07-17, 15:12 #2

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It is a problem with Internet Explorer, not the forums.

http://newsboard.unclassified.de/forum/thread/1015

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2006-07-17, 15:21 #3

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Ah, thanks. Downloading Beta 3 now.

EDIT: Confirmed, where IE 7 Beta 2 chokes on this forum, IE 7 Beta 3 seems to be running ok.

EDIT2: Using IE 7 Beta 3, page loads and typing response are horrifically slow. I hope there's a setting I need to tweak. I posted this on that support forum, let's see if others are seeing the same.

Sean Michael Taylor #21 (1983-2007). Thank you for giving it everything you had. Rest In Peace.

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I hope there's a setting I need to tweak.

Yeah, it's called USE FIREFOX.

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2006-07-18, 19:10 #5

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I know I know. I like some of the improvements on tabbed browsing in IE 7 that are not in FF. Particularly tab thumbnails (click a button and view thumbnails of each open tab) and in the Favorites side bar, hover over a link and you'll see a blue arrow popup. If you click the link as usual, it opens in the current tab. If you click the arrow it opens in a new tab. I also dig the zoom button in the bottom right.

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Einkoro (Administrator) 2006-07-19, 03:06 #6

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Firefox can do that thumbnail thing. Extensions are your friend.

http://viamatic.com/firefox

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i recentely switched from firefox to portable opera 9. i still use ff when one or two websites don't work properly on opera which is still one of its flaws but as for the rest, opera comes out of the box with a lot of ff extensions built in.

- thumbs in tabs
- "go to url" in context menu (right click on a text url without link)
- "paste and go" in context menu in address bar
- drop down menu on form fields with preset data like name, address, phone, etc.
- widgets
- email client
- rss feeder
- irc client
- block page content
- easy accesss buttons to enable/disable java, javascript, cookies, proxy, flash, audio, plugins, whatever
- etc.
- plugin for "ie view" embebed or externally for websites which use active x

and i found it to be even faster than firefox. saves pages in cache which makes re-visited webpages in the same session, instantly load.

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Firefox will also open ANYTHING in a new tab, just click that middle button! Works with the Favorites sidebar easily. For zooming text, use ctrl-mousewheel. Just because there's no pretty button cluttering your screen, doesn't mean the option doesn't exist.

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Hmm, Opera comes with a bunch of extensions (which you may or may not want) but you then cannot add or replace or remove any of them to further customize it. It's better than IE in that respect but not a patch on Firefox whose big plus, IMO, is exensions. (To be fair to IE, you can write extensions for it but fewer people do for some reason.)

That and Opera has a horribly non-standard GUI look and feel which drove me mad within seconds of trying it out recently.

That and Opera keep boasting about how great their mobile phone web browsers are, and companies keep rushing to bundle Opera instead of their own browsers, when every time I've tried it on a phone, Opera has been far, far *worse* than the original vendor's browser. (SonyEricsson P800/P900 and Nokia 6880 (WORST PHONE EVER).) Opera wouldn't render the pages as well (whether their supposedly useful small screen mode was on or off) and worked with fewer site and ran out of memory on many more sites, where memory is vitally important on a mobile phone.

I remain totally unconvinced by Opera, though I have to admit to not using the PC version for very long (because I was so offended by the f'd up GUI. It was almost like using Lotus 'Spawn of Satan, get ye gone from my blessed computer' Notes, although not that bad to be fair).

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Quote by DeathWishR on 2006-10-11, 00:18:
Firefox will also open ANYTHING in a new tab, just click that middle button! Works with the Favorites sidebar easily. For zooming text, use ctrl-mousewheel. Just because there's no pretty button cluttering your screen, doesn't mean the option doesn't exist.

And for those who find using a scroll wheel to click painfull: ctrl + left click!

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nudel, the new opera 9 is much better compared with the version you're using (pc version, at least).
indeed you can add a lot of new addons and remove some of the default ones (don't know how to remove email, irc and rss features for example, despite they go unnoticed).
it can be extended with widgets, plugins, buttons and java scripts.
you can also tweak it for better performance.

options you don't have on the gui itself, you can edit ini files to customize everything from context menus to toolbars, etc.
the gui is quite standard, in my opinion, and you don't have to restart the browser to apply a skin.
it has been said that when it fails to render some webpages correctly, it's often the website's owner fault for not supporting opera.
i actually use the portable version which i use on my portable hard disk. it uses relative paths and wipes all cache on exit, by default.

despite i use it as my main browser, i also use portable ff, so it's clearly not a substitute.

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Ah, okay, I didn't realise opera had add-ons now. That's a step in the right direction.

I can't even remember what it was about its GUI that made me run and uninstall it ASAP but something about its buttons or scrollbars or window borders (or lack of a status bar? but that's optional, right?) made me think "If they can't get this right then I have no faith in any of it". Tempted to reinstall it to work out what that was now...

I'm perfectly happy with Firefox as a browser and won't switch to something else unless there's a big, clear reason to. (It took a lot to move me from Netscape to IE, then a lot to move me from IE to Firefox, but in each case there was eventually a set of features that made it worth the jump. Opera doesn't seem to offer anything to me that FF doesn't do already, except reportedly very slightly faster rendering of some sites (while it fails to render more sites at all, heh).)

When I installed Opera it was to try out the mail component as I'm using Thunderbird at the moment but don't really like it. (The spam filtering, in particular, is absolute crap. Better than nothing but nowhere near as good as it should be, even after years of training it.) I didn't get to the Opera mail client as I disliked the web part of it so much and figured they were both based on the same GUI components.

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