HOW CAN ANYONE USE ITUNES

krazykit (Administrator) 2008-11-05, 16:04 #16

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Just reported to customer service. We'll see.

Can anyone explain this crap, though? I bought this album through iTunes. It appeared to only download once. Yet in my list it shows twice. If I unselect one track the other corresponding track also deselects. So when I try to burn a CD it says there is not enough space because it looks like it wants to burn all tracks twice.

ARGH!!!!! SO frustrating!

Sure: "iTunes is a piece of shit". There you go.

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flattop100 2008-11-06, 11:38 #17

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How does Songbird compare? Or does it?

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They did reauthorize my missing tunes and I got them. Decent customer service I suppose. But still.... way to make a good 1st impression. My first ever iTunes downloads and it's all messed up.

> UNINSTALL....

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How does Songbird compare? Or does it?

Songbird comes from the people who brought us Firefox, and IMO it continues their habit of living up to the letter of Open Source but not the spirit. With Firefox, you can download the source, configure it, build it, you just aren't allowed to call the resulting binary "firefox" 'cos it's a trademark. (Hence why the Debian one is called Iceweasel.) With Songbird it's even worse: you have to spend ages on their site before you can even find the source, it's in SVN only (no tarballs), and, at least at first glance, you have to also download a bunch of "blessed" binary builds of all the dependencies. That's not how it's meant to work, folks.

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straycat 2008-11-22, 08:19 #20

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Quote by flattop100 on 2008-11-06, 11:38:
How does Songbird compare? Or does it?

songbird has been in beta forever and feels more lika browser than a media player. well, it's actually a browser too.
last time i tried, it didn't do gapless and the mac version is just a nightly-b.
it looks good, tho, in its latest version.

on another note, has anyone of you, alternative guys, used http://banshee-project.org/? is it an amarok killer?
i can run it in osx if i install mono, but not sure if it's worth the trouble.

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keeping an eye on this thread

I want a good goddamn OSX music manager that plays back gaplessly and can do replaygain....why is there no foobar for OSX

Right now songbird + replaygain plugin (if that ever happens) looks like it's going to be my best bet...

Banshee looks interesting too...

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some mac osx players i tested:

audio players
http://sbooth.org/Play/ (gapless + replaygain)
http://cogx.org/ (just gapless)
http://toolplayer.progettoapple.com/ (just gapless, no album library but extra features including eq)

media players
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html (replaygain, not sure about gapless)

media centers
http://plexapp.com/ (gapless + replaygain)
http://xbmc.org/ (replaygain, not sure about gapless)

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One music app that I like (and which should be cross-platform) is Exaile. It has replaygain support and gapless playback is supposedly being worked on. I found it to be better than Amarok, with tabbed playlists and a queue. Plus for some reason Xine didn't seem to seek within audio files correctly.

Mac users should be able to get it to work by getting the dependencies from MacPorts.

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update:
installed mono framework on osx, banshee then runs as a native mac app but it's buggy and crashes a lot.
also doesn't support drag and drop.
uninstalled everything and back to cog.

This post was edited on 2008-12-12, 10:30 by straycat.

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Songbird just came out with a huge update last week that really catapults it to iTune-killing status. Definitely has potential to be the Firefox of 2009. I would recommend a second look.

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thanks for the tip.
gonna try the now official mac osx version and check if the same quirks which used to bother me are still there or not.

as for noob and everyone else, aTunes seems have evolved. It's multiplatform (java).
didn't care much for java apps on the pc but out of necessity, became a fan on the mac.

aTunes homepage http://www.atunes.org/
aTunes feature list http://www.atunes.org/wiki/index.php?title=Features

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Amarok 2.0 came out. They lost some features, but will be bringing them back in later versions.

http://amarok.kde.org/

Amarok is the only reason I really want to run Linux.

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Amarok 2.0 came out

boo, still unstable for mac osx even tho you dont need macports anymore. =)
looks like a winner.

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straycat 2008-12-15, 05:54 #29

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i grew to be very little flexible with audio players.
they dont have to be pretty, they just have to be flexible and ready for people who collects albums, not songs.

update on songbird:

feels much more stable but still has some issues that keep me back from keeping it.

cons:

- when using filter view, i chose a genre then an artist then an album and play it. if i navigate to another location and then click back on library it resets the last album location to "all". i have to click on the back arrow as many times as needed to get back.

- if it reads music tags, why the fuck do media players still show albums alphabetically and not chronologically?
also, no option to show the year in parenthesis in album filter pane.

- doesn't recoginze jpgs in music folders for album art. you have to select all songs in an album and drag a jpg to the album art box. if you drag it with just one song selected it adds album art to just that song.

- album art pictures and lyrics are saved in the program's library, not on the album folders. if i uninstall songbird, i lose the shit.

- when saving lyrics or applying an option which involves a web connecting addon, there's a small break in music playback.

- on the controls, just the option to see ellapsed, remaining and total time for track, not for playlist total time.

- no rating on albums, just on songs. i always consider an album as a whole so this option should be also available while keeping song ratings for the smart playlists. (even tho, i have to be honest, i like all my music. i would only give a low rating to a music genre i don't dig, which wouldn't be in my hard drive in the first place).

- i could go on but i don't wanna.

pros:

- does gapless in this version.

- smart playlists (could be smarter).

- possibility to add addons (to fix the cons).

status: uninstalled

update on atunes:

installed, ran it but it keeps sayng "no_mplayer_engine" (it requires it to play). copied mplayer command line to its folder and also had mplayer osx extended installed but no go.
tried to go to settings to chose mplayer path but keeps showing the message and doesn't pop up the settings window.
screw it.

status: uninstalled

my mac is now far from a fresh install, clutter-wise, so i'll give it a go with unsupported unstable beta amarok2.
if rivers turn to blood and it rains fire, sorry about that. i'll uninstall it.

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http://code.google.com/p/quodlibet/
i don't think this one has been mentioned before. just found it.

Quod Libet is a GTK+-based audio player written in Python. It's designed around the idea that you know how to organize your music better than we do. It lets you make playlists based on regular expressions (don't worry, regular searches work too). It lets you display and edit any tags you want in the file. And it lets you do this for all the file formats it supports -- Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, MP3, Musepack, and MOD.

mod playing is still one of the reasons i use cog for mac.